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Kuran'ın tanrısının bedduaları..
CURSES *OF *QURAN'S *GOD
*As known curse means bad wishes,revile and malediction.
*The one who is in the lower status wishes something from the one in upper status.
*This wishing may be praying for god.Bad wishes called curse,and if you curse to someone,you
wish him to fall in a bad situation.You wish from a superior power.
*It is normal for the man to wish from a superior power.(Allah)
But it is incomprehensible if Allah wishes!As Allah is the superior power,from him he wishes?
This is unacceptable.Quran interpreters have difficulty to explain curses of Allah,and they are unable to give intelligible answers.
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At first Allah curses to human:
* ''Cursed be man!How ungrateful is he!'' (80.sura,17.verse)
*A curse like this may be for enemies,therefore Allah looks man like an enemy.
*Then Allah particularly chooses some unbelievers and curses to them
* ''Allah destroy them''(christians,jews),(9.sura,30.verse)
Allah tells himself to destroy them.A strange surprise ,isn't it.
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To all infidels,especially a part of them;
* ''Take an oath,hey infidels!You are on the contrary!The one who is able to turn will be turned.God damns them who gets the mistaken idea''(51.sura,8-11.verses)
* ''Ey Mohammed!When you see them their persons will please you,and ıf they speak,you will listen to their speech,they are as if they were big pieces of wood clad wih garments,they think every cry to be against them.They are the enemy,therefore beware of them,may Allah destroy them,whence are they turned back?''(63.sura,4.verse)
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Here Allah curses to infidels;
* ''Because he thought very carefully,cursed man how dıd he think carefully,again cursed man how dıd he consider carefully''(74.sura,18-20.verses)
*As mentioned in hadits and Quran interpretations cursed man was Mugire's son Velid.There are reviles for the same man in verse Pen(68.sura,8-13.verses)
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''Perdition overtake both hands of Abu Lahab and will perish.
* * His wealth and what he earns will not avail him.
* * He shall soon burn in fire that flames,
* *His wife upon her neck a halter of rope will carry firewoods.''(111.sura)
*Allah curses to Abu Lahab ,because he was an enemy and had not believe in Mohammed.
''asla değişmeyecek hükümler getirdiğini iddia etmek,aklın ve ilmin gelişimini inkar etmek olur''
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23-12-2007, 23:35
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Re: KURAN' IN TANRISININ BEDDUALARI
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23-12-2007, 23:37
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Re: KURAN' IN TANRISININ BEDDUALARI
Tamam ,saol,Dilaver
Saygılar,sevgiler
''asla değişmeyecek hükümler getirdiğini iddia etmek,aklın ve ilmin gelişimini inkar etmek olur''
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30-01-2008, 00:40
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Re: Kuran'ın tanrısının bedduaları..
Sevgili Aydoe, emegin icin tesekkurler.
Uslubu diger makalelere benzer yapmak icin birkac yerde degisikler yaptim.
Saygilar,
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30-01-2008, 00:44
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Re: Kuran'ın tanrısının bedduaları..
CURSES *OF *QURAN'S *GOD
As known curse means bad wishes, revile and malediction.
When a person in lower status *wants or wishes something from the one in upper status, this is called “prayer”. The bad version of this is called “curse”. When curse is aimed at someone, the purpose is to make this person’s life miserable. To accomplish this purpose , this damnation is asked from a person in higher status , or from a superior power. Hence, the dictionary meaning of the word “curse” is “An appeal or prayer to some supernatural power for evil or misfortune to befall someone or something”.
It is normal for men to wish from a superior power.(e.g. from Allah)
But the notion that Allah wishes for someone’s evil or misfortune?
Now, that is incomprehensible ! Since Allah is accepted as being more powerful than any *power, superior than any being , one may ask ; which superior power is he going to ask from? What a paradox !
No wonder, *Quran interpreters , who try to *explain curses of Allah rationally, have great difficulties, and they are unable to give intelligible answers.
At first Allah curses to human:
*''Cursed be man! How ungrateful is he!'' (Surah : Abasa ( He frowned) verse : 17)
What kind of a person is this type of curse for? *Undoubtedly, *for enemies ! Therefore, Allah regards human being as an enemy, too.
Then Allah particularly chooses some unbelievers and curses to them
*''….May Allah destroy them ( Jews and Christians)…'',(Surah : Al-Tawba (Repentance, Dispensation) , verse : 30)
Allah says himself “May Allah destroy them”. Amazing , isn't it !
To all infidels, especially to a particular section of them;
*''It is an oath, ye infidels! You have false beliefs ! The one who is able to turn away ( from the false belief) will be turned away. Woe to the one *who has false beliefs , *one who is lost in negligence!''(Surah: Adh-Dhariyat (The Winnowing Winds) , verses : 8-11)
*''(O Mohammed!) When you see them their persons will please you, and if they speak, you will listen to their speech, they are as if they were big pieces of wood clad with garments, they think every cry to be against them. They are the enemy, therefore beware of them, may Allah destroy them, whence are they turned back?''(Surah: Al-Munafiqoon (The Hypocrites), verse: 4)
Here Allah curses to hypocrites;
* ''Because he thought very carefully and he ploted, may he be cursed how he plotted, But may he be cursed how he plotted''(Surah : Al-Muddaththir (The Cloaked One, The Man Wearing A Cloak), verses:18-20)
* *As mentioned in hadiths and Quran interpretations the cursed man in these verses was Mugire's son Velid. There are reviles for the same man in some verses at surah named “Pen” (Surah: Al-Qalam (The Pen) , verses : 8-13, also see Celaleyn and other tafsirs)
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'' * Perdition overtake both hands of Abu Lahab and will perish.
* * His wealth and what he earns will not avail him.
* * He shall soon burn in fire that flames,
* * And his wife, the bearer of fuel,
* * Upon her neck a halter of strongly twisted rope. ''
* *(Surah : Al-Masadd (Palm Fibre, The Flame), all verses)
Allah curses to Abu Lahab , because he never believed Muhammad and *was regarded as an enemy.
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30-01-2008, 01:05
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Re: Kuran'ın tanrısının bedduaları..
Bu da daha anlasilir sekle girmis, tekrar ellerinize saglik.
Iman, ask gibidir,gozleri koreltir,beyni muhurler.
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30-01-2008, 01:15
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Re: Kuran'ın tanrısının bedduaları..
eline sağlık aydoe
ayrıca senin de eline sağlık 3.yol
sayende unutmaya yüz tuttuğumuz ingilizceyi tekrar hatırlıyoruz...
sevgiler & saygılar...
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30-01-2008, 01:39
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Re: Kuran'ın tanrısının bedduaları..
Sağol Üçüncüyol,
Benim adım Hıdır,elimden gelen budur.
Saygılar,sevgiler
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